soc.culture.egyptian

On Aug 5, 10:08 am, Aviroce wrote:
> On Aug 4, 2:41 pm, "Guest" wrote:
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> > > Dear all,
> > > Adrian Dharma Wajaya wrote under the title "This is the barbarians
> > > bible verses" accusing that the Bible contains barbarian's verses,
> > > for example, Numbers 31:17 "Now therefore kill every male among
> > > the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying
> > > with him".
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> > > Debunking Adrian's accusations as evil intending to detract the truth
> > > of God of Jesus as follows:
> > > Adrian devilishly omitted the verses 16 and 18 to make the verse 17
> > > looks barbaric.
> > > Take a reading at Numbers 31:16, 17and 18:
> > > Num 31:16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through
> > > the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in
> > > the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation
> > > of the LORD.
> > > Num 31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones,
> > > and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
> > > Num 31:18 But all the women, children, that have not known a
> > > man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
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> > > Verse 16 speaks of the sin committed by the children of Israel
> > > through the counsel of Balaam to worship the deity in Peor, East
> > > of Jordan; and God plagued the children of Israel for their sin
> > > as punishment.
> > > Verse 17 speaks of the punishment by God to be inflicted upon
> > > the Midianites, the descendants of Abrahams=Hebrews for the
> > > seducting the Israelites to sin against God by worship the
> > > deity in Peor.
> > > Verse:18 speaks of only the women and the female children who
> > > had not known men were to be saved.
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> > > The Israelites were under the Old Covenant given to Moses- the
> > > prophet who received the Law of God namely the 5 books of
> > > Moses in the Tanach (Old Testament under the Old Covenant);
> > > and the Law of God under Old Covenant demanded such
> > > punishment, and the Israelites had to obey God according to
> > > the Law of God in order to be saved
> > > WHEREAS
> > > under the New Covenant given by the prophet, Jesus Christ-
> > > the Son of God to the Christians, the Christians are saved not
> > > by obeying the Law of God alone in order to be saved for no
> > > one was/is sinless for all have fallen short of the glory of God
> > > in that all human beings were/are weak in the flesh as all
> > > had/have sinned against God, but now Christians are saved
> > > by the GRACE(replacing the Law of God) of God which Jesus
> > > Christ has the way of Salvation by Grace of God defined in the
> > > New Testament of the New Covenant in Bible which consists
> > > of the Old and New Testament.
> > > The Law of Grace given by Jesus Christ have cancelled the
> > > killings of infidels specificied in Mat 22:35 Then one of them,
> > > [which was] a lawyer, asked [him a question], tempting him,
> > > and saying,
> > > Mat 22:36 Master, which [is] the great commandment in the law?
> > > Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord
> > > thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with
> > > all thy mind.
> > > Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
> > > Mat 22:39 And the second [is] like unto it, THOU SHALT LOVE
> > > THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF.
> > > Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law
> > > and the prophets.
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> > > Mohammed claimed that the Muslims were given the Covenant
> > > (Old Covenant) of the Jewish people by Allah, but the Quranic
> > > Covenant is EMPTY ONE because it does not have the Old
> > > Testament which is the Law of God namely the 5 books of Moses
> > > WHEREAS
> > > The Jews have a Holy Book-Tanach which contains only the Old
> > > Covenant WITHOUT THE TESTAMENT THAT SPEAK OF THE
> > > RENEWED COVENANT (mentioned in Jeremiah 31:31-4)
> > > TEACHING ALL INCLUDING THE JEWS the way to Heaven is by
> > > SALVATION OF GRACE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST who forgives
> > > those who repent of their sins by confessions to Him (Jesus) that
> > > will then on teachs the believers-Christians daily how to walk
> > > right with God onwards to Heaven.
> > > FOR WITHOUT THE GRACE OF GOD, no one could obey the
> > > Law of God without sinning. Since all have sinned, everyone needs
> > > forgiveness.
> > > AND WITHOUT THE FORGIVENESS OF GOD through Jesus
> > > Christ, NO ONE COULD BE FORGIVEN!!!
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> > > Amen.
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> > Clearly the Torah as it came first. It is the only religion that is not
> > forced upon people. Christianity is a cult corruption of Judaism and Islam
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> BACK TO THE TRASH. GARBAGE-IN GARBAGE-OUT.- Hide quoted text -
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You are talking foolishly like Mohammed who had not substantiated his
sayings as true, and Allah calls him, Mohammed, A LIAR for not having
the 4 eye-witnesses to support his sayings. Read sura 24:13 for
proving of the sayings of Mohammed, the liar.