Group: alt.politics.economics
From: Jim Alder
Date: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: Back to basics. -- *WHY* do they Hate environmentalism?

"John Galt" wrote in news:$
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>
> "Jim Alder" wrote in message
> news:Xns9A4F6980EFE52jimaldersssnetcom@...
>> forbisgaryg@ wrote in news:d41cbda4-6af4-4a5d-891a-
>> 7189399ad88c@:
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>>> On Feb 24, 11:43 pm, Jim Alder wrote:
>>>> "V-for-Vendicar" wrote in
>>>> news: $...@:
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>>>> > The Scientific debate is over, no matter how much you whine about it
>>>>
>>>> I really get a kick out of you goofballs that reply to my accusation of
>>>> blindly saying "the debate is over" when it isn't, by telling me yet
>>>> again that the debate is over.
>>>
>>> You skipped the word "scientific". Yeah, the debate rages on but the
>>> facts are in. Human factors have affected the climate.
>>
>> Why wouldn't they? We live here. That's the part I object to, that the
>> environmentalists think we are somehow outside of nature. Why would anyone
>> think that 6 billion people could live in an enclosed ecosphere and have
>> no effect? On the other hand, it is a huge ecosphere, self-cleaning and
>> self- repairing.
>>
>> On the other hand, I can't help but notice that every time skepticism
>> gains
>> ground, the future picture gets bleaker. 25 years ago the warning was
>> 'global cooling.' The future was horrific. Then it got warmer. It used to
>> be a one degree increase in the next hundred years, now your source below
>> says six degrees? A couple years of cooling temps and the alarmists merely
>> changed from 'global warming' to 'climate change' and the future is still
>> dire.
>>
>> Yet with all those changes, the solution was the same. Industry must
>> suffer, scale down, spend more on profitless expenses. That screams
>> "AGENDA!"
>
> Not to butt in on all the fun you guys are having, but my personal interest
> in why the focus remains on the impossible rather than the possible.
>
> If you look at what's happening in the capital markets, there are a couple
> of industry sectors that have avoided the current market pullback:
>
> 1) The hot stocks are the COAL stocks. They've been flying for a couple of
> years, and continue to increase in price, as they can't get it out of the
> ground fast enough to meet demand.
> 2) Where's the demand? Well, not in the US or EU, where coal is persona
> nongratis. The demand is in the emerging markets, and anecdotally it's said
> that 20% of the coal fired plants in India are currently nonproducing
> because they can't ship in enough coal.
> 3) Other industry sectors that are flying high? Companies that make the Big
> Trucks that the open pit coal mines use (take a look at the graph on Terex,
> TEX), companies that make mining equipment, and like industries.
> 4) One of Warren Buffet's largest equity investments in the last few years
> has been in Burlington Northern Railroad. Why? You have to have trains to
> get all that coal to Long Beach so it can get shipped to Asia.

This has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand, but thanks for
the stock tips.

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