alt.politics.economics

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Paul Thomas, CPA wrote:

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>>> "Mark M." wrote
>>>> You can obtain rightful ownership by making something new: modifying
>>>> natural resources into a man-made good. An example is digging iron ore
>>>> and reducing it to iron. You cannot rightfully obtain perpetual
>>>> ownership
>>>> of a particular plot of land by scratching around on top of it or
>>>> digging
>>>> a hole in it.
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>>> Why then, do you assume that you can obtain "perpetual ownership" of a
>>> manufactured good? By taking natural resources out of the ground, how do
>>> they legally become "yours"?
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>> By justly compensating those you deprive of them.
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> Then you agree that there are no "free" resources, as by taking them you
> deprive others of their later use.
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> Thank you for coming full cirtcle to agree with me and the other Paul and
> anyone else who has said that resources aren't free.
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>> But if you claim to own what nature provided for all,
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> I claim to own what I bought.

The ownership that you bought was, at some point in the past, stolen from
the public commons. "Landlording" is the oldest profession. Some guy
managed to convince everyone around him that he "owned" all the land, and
everyone had to pay him rent. From that point on, capitalism was born and
created all class warfare.

> I have a legal right to it.

Just as the first landlord explained to all the others.

> You do not have
> any rights to take it from me.

Read your history books. Even today one power/country/wealthy/lawyer can
organize efforts, legal or military, to acquire rights. Economic warfare
has been going on for thousands of years to take from the poor/weak and
give to the rich/powerful.